draph91 wrote:hey has anyone here ever heard of a man named Stefan Hansen
look at this article by him
http://readersupportednews.org/pm-secti ... -must-stop
also take a look at his website
http://www.hansensmag.net/
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Stefan Hansen repost for draph91
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Re: Stefan Hansen repost for draph91
Why reposting this? That man makes no sense.
Let's put a spin to his proof - what is the chance you destroy the Earthy by hitting a rock with a hammer? According to his logic, the chance is non-zero and therefore hammers should be forbidden.
Let's put a spin to his proof - what is the chance you destroy the Earthy by hitting a rock with a hammer? According to his logic, the chance is non-zero and therefore hammers should be forbidden.
Re: Stefan Hansen repost for draph91
haha, the repost is because 'draph91' posted this one in the "Mental illness" topic ... while this guy deserved a topic of his own.Kasuha wrote:Why reposting this? That man makes no sense.
btw he makes some sense, but a syllogism is not necessarily a water tight proof, as he wishes to claim:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syllogism# ... _Fallacies
The question here is not to forbid the hammer, but the speed, power and frequency by which it is handled, one can see the LHC as two badass hammers knocking into each other. It is like driving a car, you can't forbid people driving one, but you can forbid them to drive too fast with the car, because in some cases it becomes a hazardous event.Kasuha wrote:Let's put a spin to his proof - what is the chance you destroy the Earthy by hitting a rock with a hammer? According to his logic, the chance is non-zero and therefore hammers should be forbidden.
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Re: Stefan Hansen repost for draph91
I'm pretty sure hammer is the more dangerous one. There's just one LHC compared to millions of hammers all over the world constantly smashing all kinds of things. Domino effects caused by hammer hits are happening regularly so one of such kind which will destroy the planet is just matter of time.Chelle wrote:The question here is not to forbid the hammer, but the speed, power and frequency by which it is handled, one can see the LHC as two badass hammers knocking into each other. It is like driving a car, you can't forbid people driving one, but you can forbid them to drive too fast with the car, because in some cases it becomes a hazardous event.
Maybe even matches should be forbidden, because probability of a match igniting and burning Earth atmosphere is - by Mr. Hansen's definition - greater than zero. And you know how many matches are used every second? If we don't act now we're gonna burn!!!
Re: Stefan Hansen repost for draph91
I was wondering if he was another fearmonger or not, also CharmQuark please ask next time
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Re: Stefan Hansen repost for draph91
Sometimes I just can't do right for doing wrong, from now on I shall leave things the way they are
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Re: Stefan Hansen repost for draph91
You don't read what I write, I pointed out that the lhc IS a hammer, only with a much brutal force than any other hammer on this planet. Yes there are cosmic rays but they aren't hitting continously with the same high frequency on the same spot.Kasuha wrote:I'm pretty sure hammer is the more dangerous one. There's just one LHC compared to millions of hammers all over the world constantly smashing all kinds of things.
Here again, you shouldn't forbid regular matches, or one could bring up fire stones that create regular sparks. But one has to look out for a machine like the LHC that generates sparks that are far beyond what is normal. For a regular match the result = 0 for the LHC it is ≥0Kasuha wrote:Maybe even matches should be forbidden, because probability of a match igniting and burning Earth atmosphere is - by Mr. Hansen's definition - greater than zero. And you know how many matches are used every second? If we don't act now we're gonna burn!!!
What difference does it make if he's a fearmonger or not? Kasuha's friend Al Gore could be seen as one, and for a lot of people he makes sense. Anyway, you always should check multiple sources if you have doubts about what one person is saying and draw your own conclusions.draph91 wrote:I was wondering if he was another fearmonger or not, also CharmQuark please ask next time
btw Charms's did a great job, she's the moderator here, and if you post stuff where it doesn't belong it is up to her to take care of that, she doesn't need to ask for your permission to do so.
Strange sentence, anyway good job of moving the postCharmQuark wrote:Sometimes I just can't do right for doing wrong, from now on I shall leave things the way they are
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Re: Stefan Hansen repost for draph91
According to Mr. Hansen there is no such thing as zero probability. You have just falsified his proof. Even worse, you have completely destroyed his mathematics system.Chelle wrote:For a regular match the result = 0
Re: Stefan Hansen repost for draph91
Of course in Mr. Hansen 's world everything and anyone has the possibility to be a weapon of mass destruction, oh! did I just proved his point by destroying his pointKasuha wrote:According to Mr. Hansen there is no such thing as zero probability. You have just falsified his proof. Even worse, you have completely destroyed his mathematics system.Chelle wrote:For a regular match the result = 0
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Re: Stefan Hansen repost for draph91
i did try and find information on this guy but no luckChelle wrote:What difference does it make if he's a fearmonger or not? Kasuha's friend Al Gore could be seen as one, and for a lot of people he makes sense. Anyway, you always should check multiple sources if you have doubts about what one person is saying and draw your own conclusions.
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Re: Stefan Hansen repost for draph91
What difference does it make if he's a fearmonger or not? Kasuha's friend Al Gore could be seen as one, and for a lot of people he makes sense. Anyway, you always should check multiple sources if you have doubts about what one person is saying and draw your own conclusions.draph91 wrote:I was wondering if he was another fearmonger or not, also CharmQuark please ask next time
btw Charms's did a great job, she's the moderator here, and if you post stuff where it doesn't belong it is up to her to take care of that, she doesn't need to ask for your permission to do so.
Strange sentence, anyway good job of moving the post [/quote]CharmQuark wrote:Sometimes I just can't do right for doing wrong, from now on I shall leave things the way they are
Cheers Chelle
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