here we go again 2
here we go again 2
CERN’s Large Hadron Collider hits 1-PeV milestone with heavy ions (and re-ignites doomsday talk)
http://www.geekwire.com/2015/cern-lhc-l ... sday-talk/
the lhc has reached a new energy record as well as other things
http://www.geekwire.com/2015/cern-lhc-l ... sday-talk/
the lhc has reached a new energy record as well as other things
A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals, and you know it - Agent K
You hear one doomsday prediction, you hear them all
You hear one doomsday prediction, you hear them all
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Thanks for posting.
I guess they like to add the cliché of doomsday to create some excitement / humour.
On the other side this kind of 'laughter' makes me think of the city I live in, and that has been under lockdown due to the terrorist attacks. In the past the general public/politics was mocking critique about islamic influences that was taking grip in some neighbourhoods and laughing all problems away, and saying that it was all rightwing propaganda. Now that things have gotten out of control they are realising that there was some truth in what people where saying, but now it is too late.
Same thing with the LHC, have some critique and you're a doom-preacher.
I guess they like to add the cliché of doomsday to create some excitement / humour.
On the other side this kind of 'laughter' makes me think of the city I live in, and that has been under lockdown due to the terrorist attacks. In the past the general public/politics was mocking critique about islamic influences that was taking grip in some neighbourhoods and laughing all problems away, and saying that it was all rightwing propaganda. Now that things have gotten out of control they are realising that there was some truth in what people where saying, but now it is too late.
Same thing with the LHC, have some critique and you're a doom-preacher.
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For every place, object or situation, there is someone claiming it is dangerous.
Most of those claims are pointless.
Most of those claims are pointless.
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Well you got the (reasonable) hype of Global Warming debating over a couple of degrees, and millions of activists. While temperatures at the LHC are a quarter of a million times those at the core of the sun, with frequencies and densities 10 billion higher than in nature, and when you make remarks about this you're a doom-preacher, go figure.mfb wrote:For every place, object or situation, there is someone claiming it is dangerous.
Most of those claims are pointless.
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Take a room with a single atom of mercury (needs a very thorough cleaning campaign). Now let 10 billion additional atoms of mercury in. Oh no, you increased the concentration by a factor of a ten billions! Is it dangerous? No, you are still more than 10 orders of magnitude away from concentrations that can be harmful to humans. To be harmful to the integrity of the room, you need even more.
If you complain about 10 billion atoms of mercury in a room, you are a doom-preacher.
If you complain about 10 billion atoms of mercury in a room, you are a doom-preacher.
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Sure in that case you are doom-preacher because we now exactly how dangerous mercury is dosis-wise, but we don't know this for particle collisions:mfb wrote:Take a room with a single atom of mercury (needs a very thorough cleaning campaign). Now let 10 billion additional atoms of mercury in. Oh no, you increased the concentration by a factor of a ten billions! Is it dangerous? No, you are still more than 10 orders of magnitude away from concentrations that can be harmful to humans. To be harmful to the integrity of the room, you need even more.
If you complain about 10 billion atoms of mercury in a room, you are a doom-preacher.
It is like using lightly dense fog as a safety reference for heavy compacted hail.In nature there are about a thousand Cosmic-ray collisions of a few GeV’s (1 GeV= 10^9 electron Volt) per second per m^2. In LHC it are about one 1 billion per second per cm^2. That’s 1.000.000 times more for an area which is 10.000 smaller, it is a density & frequency difference of 10 billion and unique in the Universe.
This year we humans have even generated collisions on this planet, that were an other 1000 times more intense, record energies of 13 TeV (1 TeV= 10^12 eV). These collisions are in nature of course less frequent per m^2 while the density & frequency at the LHC of 10 billion per cm^2 was maintained.
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We have the massive ice balls in nature, and the fog in the LHC. Yeah, about right, if you distribute the billions of fog droplets over the whole surface of Earth.
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Haha … look at the graph, it is the LHC who's the massively dense Ice ball.mfb wrote:We have the massive ice balls in nature, and the fog in the LHC. Yeah, about right, if you distribute the billions of fog droplets over the whole surface of Earth.
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Many small collisions = fog
A few really hard collisions = hail
We know the car windshield survives the hail, it will survive the fog droplet "impacts".
A few really hard collisions = hail
We know the car windshield survives the hail, it will survive the fog droplet "impacts".
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Oh no, not again … it looks like you can't you read or even interpret a graph.mfb wrote:Many small collisions = fog
A few really hard collisions = hail
Low density & frequency = fog (Cosmic Rays in Nature)
High density many collisions compressed in one small area = hail (Collisions at the LHC)
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Hey mfb,
Just adding this quote by Mahatma Gandhi ... because I'm laughing at you.
I do so because Ghandi's checklist actually works: if you ignore someone, 80% of the time you'll win; add to that laughing, you rise to 90% chance; take the extra step to fighting, your chances will increase again up 2 99% ... Only the truly 1% lucky ones like Gandhi will still be on their feet and win ... the exception proves the rule that works. So haha-hihi to you mfb!
Just adding this quote by Mahatma Gandhi ... because I'm laughing at you.
I do so because Ghandi's checklist actually works: if you ignore someone, 80% of the time you'll win; add to that laughing, you rise to 90% chance; take the extra step to fighting, your chances will increase again up 2 99% ... Only the truly 1% lucky ones like Gandhi will still be on their feet and win ... the exception proves the rule that works. So haha-hihi to you mfb!
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Hey Kasuha … great to see you show up again … with a correction.Kasuha wrote:Seven Gandhi Quotes That Are Totally Fake
Thanks!
I guess this makes the statement less wise.
btw HAPPY NEW YEAR … to all of you!
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Following your logic, your next step would be to fight me, and then you lose. Is that what you wanted to say?chelle wrote:Just adding this quote by Mahatma Gandhi ... because I'm laughing at you.
I would prefer to go back to the ignore step, because your pet crackpot theory is just annoying.
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But you couldn't, hihimfb wrote:I would prefer to go back to the ignore step …
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