Where's the link to LHC morning meeting documentation?

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Re: Where's the link to LHC morning meeting documentation?

Post by neocortex » Tue May 02, 2017 10:21 am

I think we'll get an answer if someone asks BE-OP. The chairman seems the best bet.

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Re: Where's the link to LHC morning meeting documentation?

Post by zorba » Tue May 02, 2017 4:49 pm

Yes, Indico support have come back to me and confessed that they had muddled two similar requests for documentation access and as is stated here these Morning Meeting minutes are indeed not owned by LHCb but are in the category "Home » Departments » BE » Groups » OP » LHC » LHC morning meetings". They also confirmed that as stated above, "... the access to this category has been restricted by its managers to the CERN members (persons who have a primary CERN account)".

A very regrettable change after all this time of being able to view such interesting summaries.

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Richard

P.S. I carefully checked this forum and found no reports of access problems before making my enquiry of Indico over the weekend. Monday being a holiday in Europe as well as in the UK, I didn't get a response until first thing this morning - hence my belated posting.

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Re: Where's the link to LHC morning meeting documentation?

Post by mfb » Tue May 02, 2017 6:17 pm

dukwon wrote:The LHC morning meetings category page still shows it is owned by lhc-engineers, lhc-mc and two named people. I think the person who responded to your ticket mistook your question to be about the LHCb Commissioning and Operations category (https://indico.cern.ch/category/669/).
Or some other LHCb category.
I don't know how to check which right you need to access the morning meeting category (all it tells me is "access is restricted but you can see it"), but you don't have to be member of lhcb-general to see it.

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Re: Where's the link to LHC morning meeting documentation?

Post by neocortex » Tue May 02, 2017 6:39 pm

I don't know how to check which right you need to access the morning meeting category (all it tells me is "access is restricted but you can see it"), but you don't have to be member of lhcb-general to see it.
Looks like all that's needed is a primary CERN account. Goodbye morning meetings, it was nice knowing you...

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Re: Where's the link to LHC morning meeting documentation?

Post by tomey36 » Wed May 03, 2017 1:16 am

That is really unfortunate they restricted the morning meetings like that. It was a great resource to keep up with LHC operations. I can only hope it's temporary and that they lower the restrictions, it will be very hard to find out what is going on with out being able to view the indco pages.

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Re: Where's the link to LHC morning meeting documentation?

Post by chelle » Wed May 03, 2017 7:12 am

tomey36 wrote:That is really unfortunate they restricted the morning meetings like that … it will be very hard to find out what is going on …
It is probably because they are going to start doing some shady things.

You should contact your local government who funds CERN to ask why they are making these meetings privy, because that whasn't in the deal.
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Re: Where's the link to LHC morning meeting documentation?

Post by neocortex » Wed May 03, 2017 11:11 am

It is probably because they are going to start doing some shady things.
LOL
You should contact your local government who funds CERN to ask why they are making these meetings privy, because that whasn't in the deal.
Double LOL

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Re: Where's the link to LHC morning meeting documentation?

Post by chelle » Wed May 03, 2017 11:32 am

neocortex wrote:
You should contact your local government who funds CERN to ask why they are making these meetings privy, because that whasn't in the deal.
Double LOL
Are you laughing because your country's government is shady as well? What country are you from?
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Re: Where's the link to LHC morning meeting documentation?

Post by mfb » Wed May 03, 2017 7:37 pm

Did someone write a mail to one of the two responsible persons?

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Re: Where's the link to LHC morning meeting documentation?

Post by neocortex » Thu May 04, 2017 1:34 pm

I've just remembered when the morning meetings section became unavailable. It was just before machine checkout during the powering tests. On the same day they also made the LBOC meetings restricted as well as another section called LHC-MC Wiki.
All can be found at http://lhc-beam-operation-committee.web ... committee/. mfb see if you can access those. Chairman's email is there too for anyone daring enough to ask why MMs have been restricted.

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Re: Where's the link to LHC morning meeting documentation?

Post by mfb » Thu May 04, 2017 4:11 pm

I can see the meetings and the wiki.

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Re: Where's the link to LHC morning meeting documentation?

Post by neocortex » Thu May 04, 2017 4:15 pm

So I guess you have a primary CERN account?

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Re: Where's the link to LHC morning meeting documentation?

Post by mfb » Thu May 04, 2017 7:22 pm

I'm working for one of the LHC experiments.

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Re: Where's the link to LHC morning meeting documentation?

Post by CharmQuark » Mon May 08, 2017 7:18 pm

Chelle?

You behaving matey? :thumbup:
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Re: Where's the link to LHC morning meeting documentation?

Post by chelle » Tue May 09, 2017 11:14 am

CharmQuark wrote:Chelle?

You behaving matey? :thumbup:
YES! Yes I am! :mrgreen:

I'm probably one of the last 'activists' convinced that the LHC is trouble!

So I am keeping an eye on everything and poking where it is needed!

Where have you been Charms? Long time no see!

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