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Post by seabass » Sun Dec 06, 2009 2:44 pm

Im looking for underground webcams of the rings. Would be interesting to have some sound also... Does it sound like a suped up Delorian when ramped up?

I'm guessing at full power it will sound like a very large bee :|

So.. what does a few billion protons crusing around a cylinder sound like?

:D

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Post by Texanguy » Sun Dec 06, 2009 3:48 pm

seabass wrote:Im looking for underground webcams of the rings. Would be interesting to have some sound also... Does it sound like a suped up Delorian when ramped up?

I'm guessing at full power it will sound like a very large bee :|

So.. what does a few billion protons crusing around a cylinder sound like?

:D
Probably sounds like a few billion protons cruising around a cylinder. ;)

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Post by March_Hare » Sun Dec 06, 2009 6:04 pm

seabass wrote:So.. what does a few billion protons crusing around a cylinder sound like?
They cruise in vacuum so there's not much to hear.
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Post by seabass » Sun Dec 06, 2009 6:30 pm

March_Hare wrote:
seabass wrote:So.. what does a few billion protons crusing around a cylinder sound like?
They cruise in vacuum so there's not much to hear.

what about when these loaded bunch of protons become extremely unstable.. there surely has to be sound propogation on our side of the vacuum :shock:

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Post by Lexa » Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:31 am

I got more news about that.
I asked a friend working on beam dumps and collimator.

About beam dump, as it makes the material going from a low temparature to a high one, it deforms the metal. The chock wave can bounce back several times. Thus, when it meet air it produces sound.
He has to check for the case of LHC, but most likely something really really loud.

About the collimators, when particles are hitting a collimator it does the same kind of thing.
But here apparently they are using "microphone" to track how much protons are hitting a collimator. If because of a unstable bump it is above a certain threshold, it trigger an alert.

He will try to get me a sound file from the collimators.

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Post by Shadowdraxx » Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:40 am

ha awesome I've alwas wanted to know what protons at 99.99995% the speed of light sound like when they hit something :P

maybe it will sound like star trek phasers lol

edit spells its been 24 hours since i last slept
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Post by Lexa » Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:45 am

We had some fun moment about imagining what it could be, and even more, how to modulate the sound by shapping the dump material to produce some kind of funny noise when a beam is dumped :D .

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Post by Texanguy » Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:28 am

i heard the beam dump! it goes.. "Puh-klunk!"

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Post by CharmQuark » Mon Dec 07, 2009 2:21 am

Does it really :P
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Post by seabass » Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:34 am

Lexa wrote:I got more news about that.
I asked a friend working on beam dumps and collimator.

About beam dump, as it makes the material going from a low temparature to a high one, it deforms the metal. The chock wave can bounce back several times. Thus, when it meet air it produces sound.
He has to check for the case of LHC, but most likely something really really loud.

About the collimators, when particles are hitting a collimator it does the same kind of thing.
But here apparently they are using "microphone" to track how much protons are hitting a collimator. If because of a unstable bump it is above a certain threshold, it trigger an alert.

He will try to get me a sound file from the collimators.

i believe the dumb material is a graphite composite?

if you can get a sound byte.. i would be most greatful! :)

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Post by Xymox » Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:04 am

Oh Dude !!!.... That would be AWESOME....

I want it for the web site... I will add it in a number of places...

We need a good quality recording from a dump too...

I will ask Paul Collier about that...

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Post by wavesoft » Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:03 am

You can find some audio from the Collimator here : http://lhc-collimation-project.web.cern ... movies.htm

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Post by Danny252 » Mon Dec 07, 2009 11:19 am

Yup, certainly don't want to stand in front of those beams!

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Post by chriwi » Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:26 pm

I don't know if the sound of the phasers of startreck is so realistic (especially in vacuum), but the effect of the LHC-beam on materials or living creatures should be at least as devistating as a hand-paser (when it is not set to "nonletal-mode"(sorry if this retranslation from the German traslation of the movie is not correct, i just don't know the original soundtrack)) in that series.
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Post by Lexa » Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:01 pm

Catching a beam at full energy is like taking ~80 kilos of TNT (exploding, of course).

No, you don't want to be in the way :D.

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