Sanchos claims - Any merit whatsoever?

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Re: Sanchos claims - Any merit whatsoever?

Post by Stephen » Tue Sep 14, 2010 6:27 pm

MagneticTrap wrote: :Heart: :axe: :Heart: :angry-argument: :Heart:
Ivan, you probably shouldn't write statements such as "Probability of falsifications, denoted by A, is small, and I think that it is smaller than the known probability that Americans astronauts did not visited the Moon. I give about 10% at Moon falsification."
It ruins your credibility.

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Re: Sanchos claims - Any merit whatsoever?

Post by CharmQuark » Tue Sep 14, 2010 6:38 pm

We do not need Ivan spamming another thread :angry-tappingfoot: he needs to learn to stay in his own bit :angry-banghead:
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Re: Sanchos claims - Any merit whatsoever?

Post by rasalhauge » Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:06 pm

Thank you CharmQuark for keeping the thread free from Ivan=)

As entertaining as his ideas might be, I don't feel the need to see that everywhere I look. But if anyone have anything to add in regards to the two "articles", feel more than welcome to do so=)

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Re: Sanchos claims - Any merit whatsoever?

Post by CharmQuark » Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:13 pm

rasalhauge wrote:Thank you CharmQuark for keeping the thread free from Ivan=)
you are more than welcome Rasal :D
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Re: Sanchos claims - Any merit whatsoever?

Post by Stephen » Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:04 am

Just noticed the following thread. Good Lord.
http://www.2012hoax.org/forum/t-264268/luis-sancho

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Re: Sanchos claims - Any merit whatsoever?

Post by rasalhauge » Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:26 pm

Stephen wrote:Just noticed the following thread. Good Lord.
http://www.2012hoax.org/forum/t-264268/luis-sancho
Haha, my old thread=) Nice inputs from Ivan there too:P

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Re: Sanchos claims - Any merit whatsoever?

Post by Stephen » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:39 pm

I must admit that Sancho managed to scare me today again, when I accidentally entered his website and saw his various articles.

Does anyone have information regarding his past failed predictions or about his mental state? I want to learn to disregard his fear mongering crap once and for all.

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Re: Sanchos claims - Any merit whatsoever?

Post by CharmQuark » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:51 pm

:roll:
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Re: Sanchos claims - Any merit whatsoever?

Post by Shadowdraxx » Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:59 pm

well here is an articleto counter his stranglets that will pac man earth:

http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang ... ut_tha.php

And if he cant even be arsed to attend HIS OWN court case then really whats the point of him waffling on, not to mention any thread of credibility.

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Re: Sanchos claims - Any merit whatsoever?

Post by Stephen » Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:45 am

Thanks for the article. CharmQuark sent it to me earlier.

I understand strangelets are not going to destroy the world, but it would help knowing Sancho's background and past claims, in order for me to be able to ignore him from this point on. I know he's considered a real crackpot and he helped Walter Wagner with his lawsuit, but apart from that I'm not familiar with him. Maybe you or someone else can help me there?

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Re: Sanchos claims - Any merit whatsoever?

Post by Shadowdraxx » Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:51 am

Well matie all we can do is look at the facts and make a determination from there i guess.

Below is what HE says he is in HIS words @ the court case HE didn't attend:
NOTE: I have no idea if any of the statements are true or not ill simply lay out all the info I could find



"1: I am a System Scientist specialized in Cosmology and Time Theory. I obtained my undergraduate degree at Barcelona University, Barcelona, Spain. I followed with my post-graduate studies at Columbia University, New York and developed a career as a Writer on scientific themes in Spain."


"2: I also chair the Annual World Conferences on the Science of Duality, (the study of the Universe with 2 time arrows or ‘directions of future’, energy and information) at the International Systems Society (ISSS.ORG) and have published in European magazines, on the field of Duality and the Arrows of Time."



http://www.isss.org/conferences/cancun2 ... rogram.pdf
^ he as a small article in this, again helps with the background, I could not find any reference to him being a member of the board etc.

http://journals.isss.org/index.php/proc ... e/view/651
^ again an article written within the ISSS.

There are no more info/references I could find regarding his stature with ISSS.


"3: As a leading researcher in the field of Time Theory I am the author of a series of books and articles on Cosmology and Relativity (“The Living Universe”, “Time Cycles”) in which I propose an extension of Dr. Einstein’s Principle of Equivalence to explain the origin of mass. Thus, I have been interested in the experiments that are currently scheduled to take place at the European Center for Nuclear Research (CERN) that will research the nature of Mass."



OK, his words, so clearly no background in the field he's portraying himself to be an expert in, based SOLEY on his own words.

SO now in the early days he believed that the main "point" in the LHC is to provide the ultimate reward to its researchers.

"However, because the dangers of producing strange quarks and Tau quarks are known, and their production en masse will not be a ‘new discovery’; hence their production will not advance Physics. Likewise, their production would not provide a Nobel Prize to CERN’s researchers – the ultimate goal of all experimentalists – if the Earth were consumed."

But to me this is the worst bit, i mean all this is how it was written to the courts not the stuff he wrote on MSN message board and etc.

"The Physicists at CERN have systematically ignored the fact that the Large Hadron Collider might well be essentially a Dark Matter factory, and never publicly speak of the dangers involved. As an expert in Mass Theory, well aware of those potential dangers, I consider that behavior irresponsible"


Highlighted to bring it to your attention, ok he is an expert in Mass theory, with no qualifications no background, no notes that he has done experimental work, no mention to the court how he became one, and ofc WHY THE HELL ISNT HE AT THE LHC THEN IF HE IS AN EXPERT, that's what they are bloody doing it for, (amongst others), what is behind mass?!.

Again these are his words, he is an expert without any background on how he became one.

this is the point 2 years ago i well, made up my mind about him, ofc if you want i can always dig up more.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... clnk&gl=uk

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Re: Sanchos claims - Any merit whatsoever?

Post by Xymox » Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:54 am

Collisions have occurred, we are all still here...

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Re: Sanchos claims - Any merit whatsoever?

Post by draph91 » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:00 pm

Shadowdraxx wrote:Well matie all we can do is look at the facts and make a determination from there i guess.

Below is what HE says he is in HIS words @ the court case HE didn't attend:
NOTE: I have no idea if any of the statements are true or not ill simply lay out all the info I could find



"1: I am a System Scientist specialized in Cosmology and Time Theory. I obtained my undergraduate degree at Barcelona University, Barcelona, Spain. I followed with my post-graduate studies at Columbia University, New York and developed a career as a Writer on scientific themes in Spain."


"2: I also chair the Annual World Conferences on the Science of Duality, (the study of the Universe with 2 time arrows or ‘directions of future’, energy and information) at the International Systems Society (ISSS.ORG) and have published in European magazines, on the field of Duality and the Arrows of Time."



http://www.isss.org/conferences/cancun2 ... rogram.pdf
^ he as a small article in this, again helps with the background, I could not find any reference to him being a member of the board etc.

http://journals.isss.org/index.php/proc ... e/view/651
^ again an article written within the ISSS.

There are no more info/references I could find regarding his stature with ISSS.


"3: As a leading researcher in the field of Time Theory I am the author of a series of books and articles on Cosmology and Relativity (“The Living Universe”, “Time Cycles”) in which I propose an extension of Dr. Einstein’s Principle of Equivalence to explain the origin of mass. Thus, I have been interested in the experiments that are currently scheduled to take place at the European Center for Nuclear Research (CERN) that will research the nature of Mass."



OK, his words, so clearly no background in the field he's portraying himself to be an expert in, based SOLEY on his own words.

SO now in the early days he believed that the main "point" in the LHC is to provide the ultimate reward to its researchers.

"However, because the dangers of producing strange quarks and Tau quarks are known, and their production en masse will not be a ‘new discovery’; hence their production will not advance Physics. Likewise, their production would not provide a Nobel Prize to CERN’s researchers – the ultimate goal of all experimentalists – if the Earth were consumed."

But to me this is the worst bit, i mean all this is how it was written to the courts not the stuff he wrote on MSN message board and etc.

"The Physicists at CERN have systematically ignored the fact that the Large Hadron Collider might well be essentially a Dark Matter factory, and never publicly speak of the dangers involved. As an expert in Mass Theory, well aware of those potential dangers, I consider that behavior irresponsible"


Highlighted to bring it to your attention, ok he is an expert in Mass theory, with no qualifications no background, no notes that he has done experimental work, no mention to the court how he became one, and ofc WHY THE HELL ISNT HE AT THE LHC THEN IF HE IS AN EXPERT, that's what they are bloody doing it for, (amongst others), what is behind mass?!.

Again these are his words, he is an expert without any background on how he became one.

this is the point 2 years ago i well, made up my mind about him, ofc if you want i can always dig up more.
there's something like luis sancho's quotes on EinsteinvsHawking's YouTube channel

"I'm ISSS Chair of Time Duality & plaintiff in Sancho vs.CERN. This film deals with both subjects: The Dual cosmos destroys Mass, E=Mc2, in nuclear Bombs; and creates it, when dark, strong quarks feed on electroweak, light energy, M=e/c2. The Nuclear Industry evolves the final weapon, a quark canon that will produce mass-bombs and could cause the big bang of Earth into a nova (pulsar or black hole). But physicists are in denial, protecting a 13 billion $ machine & scholar ambitions. They lied to a naive press, saying quarks are harmless, cosmic rays, and the canon will find the origin of the Universe. And now are ready to play a game of Russian Roulette with Earth... Trou Noir is a Tube of growing darkness"

could he be....???

update: EinsteinvsHawking has changed his name to luis sancho
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Re: Sanchos claims - Any merit whatsoever?

Post by draph91 » Fri May 17, 2013 10:19 pm

Stephen wrote:Yesterday we had quite an interesting discussion regarding his specific scenarios - earth turning into a supernova, ice 9 reaction and dibaryons forming dangerous strangelets. The conclusion reached was that none of those is even technically possible.
what are dibaryons?
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