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by chelle
Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:59 am
Forum: Science
Topic: LIGO - Was It All Just Noise?
Replies: 27
Views: 16130

Re: LIGO - Was It All Just Noise?

Both. It is something like 50 to 100 orders of magnitude too weak to be detected, and also 20 to 50 orders of magnitude too weak to play a role in the collision. It is so utterly negligible that it doesn't even need more precise estimates. Sure one or two collisions per second are 'negligible' but ...
by chelle
Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:33 pm
Forum: Science
Topic: LIGO - Was It All Just Noise?
Replies: 27
Views: 16130

Re: LIGO - Was It All Just Noise?

The LHC can produce Micro Black Holes There is no indication that it could, and these black holes would be obvious if they would have been produced. Even if could, they wouldn't produce notable gravitational waves. You probably mean here ' detectable '. … and of course not, because those signals dr...
by chelle
Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:45 pm
Forum: Science
Topic: LIGO - Was It All Just Noise?
Replies: 27
Views: 16130

Re: LIGO - Was It All Just Noise?

mfb wrote:There are no "other vibrations".
The LHC can produce Micro Black Holes, and if LIGO detects waves from BH's that are 2 million light years away … than surely there are vibrations at the LHC. Billions. Think! :mrgreen:
by chelle
Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:28 am
Forum: Science
Topic: LIGO - Was It All Just Noise?
Replies: 27
Views: 16130

Re: LIGO - Was It All Just Noise?

Some things are very easy to spot … This is a bit different from gravitational wave detectors … Well that is my point from the start, the LHC can only detect the linear decay that I mentioned previously, but not the other vibrations that the LHC is producing at a frequency and density that is a bil...
by chelle
Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:03 pm
Forum: Science
Topic: LIGO - Was It All Just Noise?
Replies: 27
Views: 16130

Re: LIGO - Was It All Just Noise?

when you collide particles do you produce waves that travell through the Higgs Field No you do not. Do you really want to drive your own thread off-topic? It's not off-topic, because the issues with the LIGO experiment show how difficult it is to detect something within the noise. As a matter of fa...
by chelle
Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:24 pm
Forum: Science
Topic: LIGO - Was It All Just Noise?
Replies: 27
Views: 16130

Re: LIGO - Was It All Just Noise?

Yes, I was referring to that post. It is a random collection of words without any physics in it. The physics is straightforward, when you collide particles do you produce waves that travell through the Higgs Field (SpaceTime) that shake up surrounding matter, like when you drop a stone in a pond, a...
by chelle
Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:23 pm
Forum: Science
Topic: LIGO - Was It All Just Noise?
Replies: 27
Views: 16130

Re: LIGO - Was It All Just Noise?

It also puts my argument, of how to detect collision vibrations at the LHC, back on the table. :mrgreen: There is not even an argument. Randomly collecting words is not an argument. That wasn't an argument on itself, it was a reference to the argument in my first post: This begs for an other questi...
by chelle
Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:37 am
Forum: Science
Topic: LIGO - Was It All Just Noise?
Replies: 27
Views: 16130

Re: LIGO - Was It All Just Noise?

Apparently they have published everything, here's a reaction from LIGO: http://www.preposterousuniverse.com/blog/2017/06/18/a-response-to-on-the-time-lags-of-the-ligo-signals-guest-post/ But it seems to be besides the point as the issue is with the templates, as explained in the video by the Danish...
by chelle
Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:55 am
Forum: Science
Topic: LIGO - Was It All Just Noise?
Replies: 27
Views: 16130

Re: LIGO - Was It All Just Noise?

The article doesn't state if LIGO actually also published that 'more intricate' method somewhere. I know the original publication. Yes they did. They have discussed the 'more intricate method' in their paper, but they didn't publish the method itself. Anyway, I guess that's not the key issue here, ...
by chelle
Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:27 pm
Forum: Science
Topic: LIGO - Was It All Just Noise?
Replies: 27
Views: 16130

Re: LIGO - Was It All Just Noise?

LIGO published the 'more intricate' analysis. That's what Sabine is saying. I am not sure about this. :think: The Danish group used the method published by LIGO on their webside, and it was 'a mojor shortcoming' vs. the 'more intricate' method. The article doesn't state if LIGO actually also publis...
by chelle
Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:54 am
Forum: Science
Topic: LIGO - Was It All Just Noise?
Replies: 27
Views: 16130

Re: LIGO - Was It All Just Noise?

The arxiv submission is very questionable. A major shortcoming of the Danish group’s analysis that they pointed out to me is that the Danes use methods based on tutorials from the LIGO Website, but these methods do not reach the quality standard of the – more intricate – data analysis that was used...
by chelle
Sat Jun 17, 2017 9:45 am
Forum: Science
Topic: LIGO - Was It All Just Noise?
Replies: 27
Views: 16130

LIGO - Was It All Just Noise?

New article/paper on the LIGO gravity waves detector, asking the question if it was simply noise. This begs for an other question if the LHC is actually able to detect anything out of the ordinary, such as collision-waves that might combust surrounding matter and cause a global inferno fueled by sub...
by chelle
Tue May 09, 2017 11:14 am
Forum: The Accelerator
Topic: Where's the link to LHC morning meeting documentation?
Replies: 29
Views: 18826

Re: Where's the link to LHC morning meeting documentation?

CharmQuark wrote:Chelle?

You behaving matey? :thumbup:
YES! Yes I am! :mrgreen:

I'm probably one of the last 'activists' convinced that the LHC is trouble!

So I am keeping an eye on everything and poking where it is needed!

Where have you been Charms? Long time no see!

Cheers,
m.
by chelle
Wed May 03, 2017 11:32 am
Forum: The Accelerator
Topic: Where's the link to LHC morning meeting documentation?
Replies: 29
Views: 18826

Re: Where's the link to LHC morning meeting documentation?

neocortex wrote:
You should contact your local government who funds CERN to ask why they are making these meetings privy, because that whasn't in the deal.
Double LOL
Are you laughing because your country's government is shady as well? What country are you from?
by chelle
Wed May 03, 2017 7:12 am
Forum: The Accelerator
Topic: Where's the link to LHC morning meeting documentation?
Replies: 29
Views: 18826

Re: Where's the link to LHC morning meeting documentation?

That is really unfortunate they restricted the morning meetings like that … it will be very hard to find out what is going on … It is probably because they are going to start doing some shady things. You should contact your local government who funds CERN to ask why they are making these meetings p...