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The scientist I referred to at the end, wasn't a scientist from the 'incrowd' the minister followed a scientist with a political background. That's why I wrote second last paragraph 'top' scientists. I think you put your finger on the problem here. Politicians like to pick scientists who say the so...

Interesting that on the one hand you say the problem is that politicians have been slavishly listening to scientists and then end up giving an example of scientists not being listened to by politicians. I disagree with you heavily. Most of this has been caused by politicians not listening to scienti...

I'm doing pretty good. Able to work from home pretty well, only downers are having to cancel a holiday and worse, not having a cricket season.

Beyond that, a lifetime of being anti-social is finally paying off ! I no longer have to avoid people, they avoid me !

Fascinating, thanks for this.

You mean like the third image on this page or what ?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-47873592

Scott Manley has some thoughts on this subject

Not sure I'm keen on opening a link to a hacker club website.

It is childish how you’re trying to claim that science is good and great, but when misused it is no longer science. That’s BS and you know it. :mrgreen: Well, you manage to be patronising, insulting and twist my words in one post. Where did I say science is good and great ? Where did I say when it ...

What people do in the name of science isn't the same as science.
What people do in the name of religion isn't the same as religion.
People abuse labels and causes in their own interests, the problem is people, not the thing they are misusing.

Welcome. You'll find the forums are pretty quiet these days unfortunately but there's huge amounts of interesting info there if you have a little look.

So much for it being the coldest known place in the universe

Sorry to hear your tale of woe !

I hope things et better for you and it's great to see you back

Welcome to the group !